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imvelaphi yoGABA iphi,mna ndiyontombi kwa Gaba ndikwanguye nomzukulwana ikhaya lise Cumakala eMasimini, ngoku ndilapha e kapa ngenxa yempangelo.
ReplyDeleteNdinguGaba ucihoshe umjobi u nozinga. Ukuba amanqgosini ebengekho ngekukudala nisifa ngulomlambo yiyo lonto kwathiwa abanye bethu mabaphume emlajeni babe ngaphandle zeningaboli ngumlambo aaah Mnt' uwomlambo. Mzodeleli Ndesi
Deleteimvelaphi eya amaNgqosini esuka koMqhancu or Khoi Khoi ngokuba nge xesha boyisana namaDutch ba balekela eBasuthwini phantsi kubuKhosi bezizwe ebasuthwini ba amaVundle(BAFOKENG)ba hlulela amaNgqosini umhlaba kulapho into yobu sotho ya qala khona thina ubuKhosi bethu abukho tu emaXhoseni kunye na se basuthwini singa amaKhoi khoi ngemvelo
ReplyDeleteNdiyavumelana nawe ukuba ngenene ogaba basuka kono khoi khoi, kodwa kukho into ethi aba bazibiza ngembokodo emnyama kathikoloshe bona abasuki komqhancu okanye kokhoi khoi.....khawuze nayo mngqosini
DeleteIngaba kuphelele apho ngemvelaphi yamaNgqosini? Ukuba kunjalo kwenzeka njani ukuze azidibanise namaXhosa?
ReplyDeleteMINA NGIFUNA UKWAZI NGEFANI YAKWA QUBUDA IMVELAPHI YAYO
ReplyDeletexa kunjalo ndifuna ukuqonda kutheni sizithutha ngokwe Sintu xa singekho phantsi kwama Xhosa nangaphantsi kwabesuthu...ukuba ndikuva kakuhle uthi singama Qhakancu malawu makube siyazalana naMasukwini...umama ozala umama wam ke ngumaMsukwini! yambi
ReplyDeleteHayi ndiyala ukuba siphuma kwi-Khoisan, Oo-Gaba, Thithiba, Nozinga, Cihoshe, Mnt’womlambo, Mjobi, Msuthu, Mbokoth’wemnyama ka-Thikoloshe, andivumi kangangokba lendawo ka Msuthu ingathi iphuma kwaMoshoeshoe, ingathi ke sibaleke ngethuba apho u-Moshoeshoe athe wachukela isiqithi sakwa Ramonaheng, ukuba uyaqaphela ke namaKoena ikhona indawo edibanisa wona namaNgqosini ngoba nabo lisetyana lakwaMoshoeshoe--Koena means crocodile, kulapho ke bathi bavana Nabantu Bomlambo(bona babizwe ngoluhlobo kuba umlambo yayiyindawo yozimela). ngawundilinde ke Zukie Mamngqondisi, ndiqhubekeke nophanda iincukacha ezithe vetshe ndiyabuya........ Nam ndilapha kweli lentlanzi, ntlanzi leyo ikukutya koNoqhakancu, oo-Tiki ayivumani nepokoto, oo-Deyi, Dibashe, ngoo-Sukwini ke abo akutyiwa sithebesinye noo-Gaba ke apho...
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Deletemolweni MaNgqosini,I will use the Engish language to communicate with u because I am one of those South Africans who are born of multiracial parents,a Mngqosini father and a Motswana mother so I grew up speaking my mother tongue but I love my father's culture,my culture,My maiden name is Andrease though I am also married to a Motswana guy from Botswana,I would like to know more about Amangqosini because the little I know is that the whites (Boers) changed our surname from Malambile to Andrease since they could not pronounce Malambile even though some of us write it Andreas instead of Andrease we are the same people and heard that our forefathers originates from Grahamstown and they moved up to the Northern Cape ,left the others in some parts of the Northern Cape until where we are staying now which is in Kuruman.Anyone who knows is more than welcome to share with me.
ReplyDelete!Gaitses Ngwana ko gae ke tla go fa Pale yotlhe yamaNgqosini fa o nka mpa email address ya ga go I will provide with what you need my sisters or Join The Great amaNgqosini(!Korana) on Facebook you will get what you need
Deletemy email hamidbiturbo@hotmail.co.za
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Delete!Gaitses Khwe Khwena.. Gariepka(bantubomlambo).. Mzi kaCihoshe
ReplyDeleteI will write in english my fellow siblings .. I want to answer Sandile Koni with his comments Gaba you are spreading more confusion with regrads to the sotho Identity of Bakwena. How do you then Distinguish then Khwena and Kwena? Khwena means Men of Men as a result the Khwe(San) Identify themselves as Khwe meaning Men and during the time they got advanced they identify themselves as Khwe Khwena(Khoe Khoena) Men of Men!!!! Then Kwena(Koena) is a Crocodile this is an error my brother period we are not Sothos due to this was a confusion made by Historian which does not link us with the Bakwena people. We are !Korana of Danab(Chief) /Ihoshe(Cihoshe) Gaboa(Gaba NgesiXhosa) of Gariep river otherwise he was known as Goost by the Europeans The name Ngqosini was a a designation from the abaThembu people due to they were a Mix race of people asking them Ungumgqwa wesini or Ngqo- siyini meaning exactly what kind are you people? In afrikaans they were known as Basters. Yes we are river people of Gariep river the Reason we are reffered as River People were Specialist, !Gaixhameb(amaGqirha) i'm not talking of your sangomas or Nyangas but a !Gaixha. Here are the family to Gaba: NABOA//ANDROA//SEKHOA//GABOA..The First three remained in Nieuwveld in what is today George where by Gaba and Khobaha(king) TaaiBosch kept moving and Gaba remained in Gariep river. Our praise name such as Nozinga(Taaibosch) is translated as people of the Bush. When the !Kora arrived in Lesotho/Orange Free State/Free Sovereign Union, King Moshoeshoe I wanted to incorporate them under him but his Soldiers were heavily defeated by the !Korana army and they were heavily armed as a result. Here is a lesson King Moshoeshoe I(Diphoqo) was not a Kwena they were adopted into the Bakwena as a result of Mfecane(Drought) was taking place originlly they were amaHlubi. He was the Grand son King Bhungane II(Mlothswa) what is the land of Free State/lesotho belonged to Bafokeng(amaMvundle). we are not related to Bakwena.
We have a mix of ancestory between Khwe and Asians(Chinese), Khwe khwena and europeans.. Yes we intermarried with Sotho people such as Bataung people, Batlokwa and Bafokeng
Camagu
I can't agree with you more,my father echo's the same understanding that the gaba clan are not Xhosas but a San tribe.
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DeleteI know is that Mafokeng got married to San woman. they were blessed with two sons Mvundla and Cilashe. King Mofekeng died and these sons were chased away by Basotho people, because if you're Sotho you're not allowed to another tribe...they move to KZN and Eastern Cape ( Mthatha) Khoisan tribe. The name Nqosini develop because Thembu tribe I wanted to know clearly who're you( hence the name Nqo) because you're Sotho or Khoisan.
Khurasab, I salute you with that intellectual interpretation. I believe you have more than you're telling us. That's my email below if you can kindly share all you have with me so that I can extend that info to my siblings, kids and our grandchildren. Gaba, Ngqosini, Cihoshe, Thithiba, Mnt'omlambo... Sithi camamgu, makube chosi kube Helen... Nangamso mntakwethu
DeleteThis is very enlightening. .first time i get a glimsy of where we come from.
ReplyDeleteNdicela ukwazi ngopheleleyo ngemfelaphi yamanqosina
ReplyDeleteOoNgxangana,Menyezwa ingabazezinye zezinqulo zooGaba
ReplyDeleteStop reading JH Soga's books they are misleading .. We are khoena mean man not Koena(Crocodile) in Sotho Tswana .. you say a lot of praise names of this house but not all were from one man e.g Cihoshe and Gaba is one man u/Ihoshe Gâboa otherwise known as Goost by the British .. He was the Khodanab(Chief) of The !Kora of !Garib(Gariep or orange) river. Mjobi was in fact Job who was the !Kora leader from Thaba Nchu(Free State) . Nozinga was in fact Queen Nzinga of the Ndongo people of present day Angola what happed her ppl were brought as slaves In //Hui !Gaeb(Cape town) so the time the !Kora ppl left //Hui !Gaeb these slaves left with !Korana ppl .. Ndoko was a Thembu leader due to even the Madiba clan do praise him.. There was no ancestor called Ngqosini this a a description given to our ppl due to we are mix race Ngqo-siyini.. Exactly what kind are you ppl? We are !Kora and Khoekhoena and not Xhosa nor Sotho
ReplyDeleteI support this.
DeleteStop reading JH Soga's books they are misleading .. We are khoena mean man not Koena(Crocodile) in Sotho Tswana .. you say a lot of praise names of this house but not all were from one man e.g Cihoshe and Gaba is one man u/Ihoshe Gâboa otherwise known as Goost by the British .. He was the Khodanab(Chief) of The !Kora of !Garib(Gariep or orange) river. Mjobi was in fact Job who was the !Kora leader from Thaba Nchu(Free State) . Nozinga was in fact Queen Nzinga of the Ndongo people of present day Angola what happed her ppl were brought as slaves In //Hui !Gaeb(Cape town) so the time the !Kora ppl left //Hui !Gaeb these slaves left with !Korana ppl .. Ndoko was a Thembu leader due to even the Madiba clan do praise him.. There was no ancestor called Ngqosini this a a description given to our ppl due to we are mix race Ngqo-siyini.. Exactly what kind are you ppl? We are !Kora and Khoekhoena and not Xhosa nor Sotho
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DeleteIngathi amanqosi la manintsi, mna ke ndingu: Gaba umsuthu nqosini cihoshe nozinga umntu womlambo, uninzi lwethu likulamhlaba wakugatyana (willowy)
ReplyDeleteMsuthukazi Koni
ReplyDeleteMangqosini , booCihoshe, booNozinga , bantu bomlambo , etc. Greetings to you all. All of you bethuna , bantwana base khaya , ndino thulela umnqwazi ngokuba interested kangaka kwimvelaphi yethu sonke . As I was perusing down and reading all your articles , I found them soo profound , well researched and interesting . I just smiled to myself to find that, my brothers and sisters out there are sooo keen to research about imvelaphi yethu which of course as of today is refereed to as " History. There are many topics that we can debate within our originality really . As naturally gifted as we are Gaixhameb(amaGqirha - 'm not talking of your sangomas or Nyangas but a !Gaixha - just an extract from Khurusab : , this is a debate on its own - ( Linkage between most of amaNgqosini angamagqirha and the statement above. You may think the reflections that you are all sharing with us , are just " reflections" , if you care to know how important they are , for they are assisting some of 'us' , like me , who really have lost my history and its absolutely ' heartbreaking'. Ndithi xa ndiva umama wam ( Mambhele, Khuboni, Langa, Ndabezitha, Nodzela, Nontanda ukuphakanyiswa, etc) , ecula ihistory yako kwabo , when they have family functions e.g. funerals , weddings , etc, kube buhlungu intliziyo , for I only know ukuzi thutha qha , ngapha koko , ayikho enye into endiya ziyo ngam. Thumbs up for this , any way forward in terms of concertizing the platform further , in terms of sharing with us , from here to where Mngqosini ? Surely something needs to be done , really . I will not say what needs to be done but I strongly feel that , we need to do something before our history gets erased !
NdinguSiviwe kaSiretshe uMzukulwana kaZinyekile uTambo lenyoka lihlab' elimzondayo uMathimla nox' engafakanga gwada uZinyekile uzalwa nguBomvana uBomvana yinto kaNohoyoyo uNohoyoyo yinto kaJoja uJoja yinto kaNkqayi uNkqayi yinto kaMthwebu uMthwebu yinto kaMazola
ReplyDeleteNdinguMngqosini uGaba uThithiba uCihoshe uNozinga uMjobi uMsuthu uNdoko uMntu womlambo. Ndicela ukwazi ngcono ngesisnqulo ndisoloko ndisiva sika "Menyezwa" imvelaphi yaso.
Hayi madoda nani bomama ndino thulela umqwazi, inoba kemna ndinga lamalawu alapha eKapa. Asafuna ukwazi banzi, worse part ndiyintlabi yakwaGaba. Kodwa kunzima uwulanda umnombo, ndithi xandizi landa ndiphele kwisinqe (eBhayi) kulapho abakhulu baphuma khona.... "Mngqosini, uGaba uThithiba, uCihoshe, uNozinga, uMjobi, uMsuthu, uNdoko, uMntu womlambo".
ReplyDeleteMoro Moro Ti Gab (Molo Bhut wam) We are !Korana Akukho Busuthu kwisizwe sakuthi no....... Thithiba its Teteb.. gaba Its !Gaba Cihoshe is |Hoase .. Ndoko ngu Nthako a !Korana leader as well Mjobi Its Jobi there is no such Sotho from !Korana tribe
DeleteNam mandizibulisele kooGaba ngalentlazane, ndikweli leeNtlanzi. Mna ndinguMongezi elenkobe ozalwa nguMonde Biko, yena ezalwa nguQondaphi kaManeli, uGab'omkhulu. Inkaba yam nam iseBhayi kwaneyexhego ngokunjalo xa ndisiva. Kodwa xa ndisiva ixhego likhulele kulammango waseRhafu kulomama walo. Umama wexhego onguMaMvulane yena wahlangana netata wexhego eKaroo kumango waseSteytlerville.
ReplyDeleteIxinge apho ke imbali ingatsho ukuba utamkhulu yena uphuma nooManeli abangooGaba ekucacayo kukuba kukhona ukutshintsha kwamagama ngexesha lakudala kwakkuhlalwa kusetyenzwa emaplasini.
Mna owam umbuzo kukufuna ukuqonda ukuba ooGaba bakwaMmaneli bona baphuma phi babeme phi ngokomnambo kuba lendaba yamaplaas yaqhawula uqhagamshelwano...
Moro Horesagu tsi Saa'khoexahoena
ReplyDeleteTita ge a Khrurseb Mapa xuts ta ha bloemfontein ... Mandithi ke All that has been said its true.. socalled amaNgqosini are !Ausn folks of ||Are-ma||ais (Nxele in Xhosa) A !Korana clan and they are a subclan from this clan
where there were as follows:
Sono
||Uluka
!Ausn
!Oara
!Gana
#Gam
Matona
Now when they praise they are praise other !Korana clans such as The |Hoana in Xhosa it would be abakwaCihoshe which means a Cat ..The Kat river in the Eastern Cape is named after Them ... Cihoshe or |Hoase is a Cat and Gaba and |Hoase people are the same .. and Gaba is written !Gaba or !Gaboa ...
Mjobi is Jobi which was little Jacobus and his Indigenous reference was Xgai and in the eastern cape he was known as Nxiya and Nxai from the Moroka family in Thaba Nchu. Xgai was a Petty chief not a Paramount.... Titiba was In fact Teteb meaning Father in !Koragowab and Teteb was from the ||Are-ma clan and the Mlambo they speak of its infact !Garib your Orange and vaal River...
we are Khoekhoena not Bantu nor Sotho ... Sa'Khoexakhoena we have history from every where in SA not Lesotho
This seems to be the history of the Ngqo-sini?/ what are you exactlty? This was a question posed by the Xhosa when a different people lead by Ihoshe Gaboa later known as Inkosi uGaba:
ReplyDeleteThe history of this great people starts with the king of the Bafokeng( which one, I am still researchin the name of this great king and the year); settling in Ntsoanatsatsiby the river Iligwa. This is where the king got to be blinded by a beautiful Korana/Boroa (San) maiden, and got married to her. The queen of the Bafokeng gave birth to two princes, Mmutle and Motjope, when the king passed-on, it was the tradition that the older son, prince Mmutle be crowned king. But the majority of the people rejected the prince; saying they won't be lead by 'Boroanyana' ( a pesron of khoi origin), that was a total rejection of prince Mmutle by his Sotho people who for some other reason thought the Khoi women were not qualified to produce a person of riyal blood. This lead to the heir to the thrown, Prince Mmutle leaving the land of his birth, however, some of the Bafokeng and left with him. But the majority of the people who sided with prince Mmutle were the Khoi, so the number of Khoi was higher than the Sotho speaker. Sotho was dominant, thus the king's son was called ihoshe( kgosi) but the Khoi language was as dominant, similar to the Ndebele language in Zimbabwe where though Nguni is dominant but the inter-marriage with the Shona speakers has made a mark on how Ndebele is spoken.
King Mmutle had a son who became the king his name was Gaboa which due to Xhosa influence as this faction that left the Bafokeng got to be given land in the Xhosa jurisdiction.
It seems that the Xhosa speakers were confused by this group of people, their culture and language did not really fit with the AmaQhunukhwebe( a combination of Sans and Xhosa), Sans/Abathwa and abeSotho. Xhosas knew both the Sans/ abathwa and Sotho, but this group was not much fitting in both. They asked who were they exactly, thus the name amaQhosini ( kkanitsho Ngqo, niyini/nitintoni?)
This is the great typestry of Afrikan genes, a beauty of a people who combines all the important groups of Afrika, the Sans/ Abathwa the AbaSotho and the AmaXhosa.
You cannot say you are not Xhosas as you inherited your main culture, intermarried with them and lived under their paramount king. Yes you have your great heritage, unique to the rest and wonderful.
You rejected the totems of abeSotho and adopted the isiduko zamaXhosa which you now are.
Through this greal heritage under the Ngqosini, Msuthu comes the
-AmaMvulane
-AmaMfene
-Amavundle( Mmutle was changed to Mvundle)
-Mkhumbeni
-Maduna-Bhayi
-Gambu
-Ndzaba
-AmaNtshilibe
Mna ndingumzukulu wama Mvulane, Msuthu, Ncilashe,Gwadela, Papesha, Mev'amhlophe. zinjana zizelana ngemiva ngokunge ziyaxabana kanti zigil'imikhuba. There are many Mvulanes with slightly different diversion but share the same root of the Ngqosini, ie Msuthu, Mev'amhlophe. One that comes to mind is Nguthushe.
If one looks at iziiduko ( praisename) of all these Msuthu houses one could not be suprise to find more than one common names, especially Msuthu, Mev'amhlophe,Ncilashe.
I stand corrected but my amatuer reseach has taken me thus far.
Msuthu!
Pardon my mispellings:
ReplyDeleteRiyal : royal
Ntoanantsatiby: Nstoanantsatsi by the river
Nguthushe: Ngcuthushe.
Molweni ooGaba.
ReplyDeleteMy name is Sifiso Simelane. I grew up in Swaziland, in 2014 I discovered my real surname is Gaba. My dad was born in South Africa his mom (granny) was from Swaziland. Her name was Thalitha Mkhathswa. They say she meet uTatamkhulu in Phongolo or Mondlo, kwaZulu Natal in the early 1960s. His name was Themba Gaba he was a painter. They had a son(my dad) who was born in 1965 in a hospital called Itshelejuba in Natal.
Granny left uTata Gaba and went back to Swaziland with the baby boy (my dad) she gave him d surname Simelane when they were in Swaziland. Granny died in the early 1970S she never told anyone where tata Gaba was original from. My dad grew up and died too in 1994. He knew only his surname Gaba.
Now things are not going well on me and my siblings and prophets are telling us that our ancestors want us home for the Gaba rituals. We not sure where to start.
So im asking ooGaba to help if anyone knows of uTatamkhulu, Themba Gaba who lived in Phongola in kwaZulu Natal in the 1960s to help.
Currently im living in Soweto
My contact number is 0710220064
whatsapp number +26876475447
my email address is sb35simelane@gmail.com.
I will appreciate your help ooGaba.
Thank you in Anticipation.
Ndingu Siyabonga Gaba, isiduko Sam ngu Mqwathi. Awungo Mngqosini wena,kodwa ungu Mqwathi, Nzolo, Nzila, Nzothwana....
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ReplyDeleteAhh boNoZinga.Ndingu Thobela Kota ikhaya liseDebeNek kwilali yaseRabe.Ndikwelentlanzi ngempangelo.Ndiyazingca ngokuba nguMagaba,ndiyavuya bantakwethu ngokumana nisikhumbuza ngemvelaphi yethu.Mna ndaqaphela ukuba ootatomkhulu bam amagama abo akhumshile kunoJoel,Duglas noRitoli.Ngoku kugcwala ibhekile kwelam icala ngoba kudala ndizama ukuqonda imvelaphi yam.
ReplyDeleteMholweni bazali bam, bantakwethu nani bodade bam ngobubusuku
ReplyDeleteNdingu-Magaba, Mangqosini,Thithiba,Nozinga,Cihoshe,
Zondeki,Umntuwomlabo,Msuthu,Intombebelenye phesheya komlanjana, Mjobi,ndoko,Thikoloshe,Mbokothwemnyama kahili,nfingu-Pumza Qikani ifani siphaya kumhlaba wama-Mpondomise umhlaba wa-Mabhukwane oombarha,ndifunukwazi nam ngokucacileyo ngemvelaphi yethu utata wam ngu-Sandile Qikani,utatawakhe ngu-Khivithi elobubhem yayingu-Njombo kuthiwa ke sasiphuma Engqayi ndifunukwazi ukuba ngaba kukhona umntu onokundicacisela okanye onolwazi ngalefani phantsi kwesisiduko. Enye into endifukuyazi andiniva nizibiza ezinye zeziziduko ndizibizileyo kodwa kuthiwa u-Gaba mnye ndiceluncedo nolwazi oluohangaleleyo malunga nesisiduko ndibenomdla kakhulu xandiniva nimanukuphefumla phambili... ma-Ngqosini amahle sizakude sifike engcambini yemvelaphi yethu
Simekumhlaba wase-Maclear kwilali yase-Ngxotho ndifukukwazi ukuba ilali yase-Ngqayi yona iphi?
ReplyDeleteNam bethuna ndilapha kwelentlanzi ngokokuxilonga ke ndixilongela inyama
ReplyDeleteInteresting !!!!
ReplyDeleteMna ndingu Mavundle Ubhayi ka ketshe Lwandile. Ogaba ngama vundle afana namakhumbeni Nomamvulane bonke No Thusi Zizindlu ezincinci zakwa Bhayi Kodwa sonke siphuma kuba Bafokeng Ba Mmutla.
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Good day amangqosini amahle can I have full Gaba isithakazelo because I am also Mngqosini Gaba but I dnt know the full clan praise
ReplyDeleteWow I just found out I'm originally khoi Khoo and all along been thinking I'm Xhosa, ndingu Lindokuhle igama umgweba ugaba umt'womlambo utikoloshi ucihoshe thithiba unozinga untembeko ukahili umngqosini ndabulela about the profound incite of my origin which is paramount to our knowledge enkos'kuni nonke eningakhange nay'lahla imvelaphi yenu we just gained from the knowledge at least now I know from where do I originate
ReplyDeleteNomthandazo Makhunzi
ReplyDeleteXa kungekho nto iphumelelayo ebomini benu balondlu , kungalungi kwanto senithi niyazama , kwaye ufumane seningevani kwanodwa , anincedeki senithe niyaphuma niya emntwini, mntu lowo akasafuni kuninceda , kwenzeka ntoni
ReplyDeleteMolweni maNgqosini
ReplyDeleteMy name is Zantya from Kuruman in the Northern Cape. I am told my great great grant father left Eastern Cape for Northern Cape in search of job opportunities. Unfortunately we can't trace back his origin and the real surname. We are currently using different surnames such as:Booysen, Booyse, Boyise, Boise, Boyce but we can't seem to connect with any of these surnames in the Eastern Cape. Common names in the family are: Dirk, Letshangani, Ntapu, Luzane, Papkuil, Tokolo, Faku, Manyane. What we do know is singa maNgqosini. Please assist with invelaphi yethu